yregna
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Last year it was a video store mogul who was getting divorced, and he hired a guy to murder his wife. Today this is in the news:
09:54 AM PDT on Tuesday, May 8, 2007
MILWAUKIE -- A man accused of intentionally running over his wife has been booked in the Clackamas County jail, authorities confirmed Tuesday morning.
Police said Robert Henderson, 66, ran over his estranged wife, Eileen as she was planting flowers in the front yard of their Milwaukie home on SE River Way Lane Monday. The couple is amidst seperation and divorce.
I realize the majority of women favor alimony, but how many more men have to be backed into a corner to the point of murder before women realize maybe alimony isn't the gravy train their attorney told them it would be ? Maybe more women should make their own careers and money and stop trying to get a percentage of another persons work ? Even British courts have realized that when one person makes substantially more than the other, marriage doesn't entitle the lower wage person to that money. Staying home and raising children is a whole lot easier than going out in the marketplace and making +150K a year. But women raise the kids, then expect to be paid in an equivalent manner. Just plain not fair, and when you back a person into a corner they will be violent.
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matart1
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and your point is what pray tell ...... ???
alimony or divorce did not make that man kill his wife - stupidity did and for his supreme intelligence it appears he would rather finish out his days in jail possibly away from friends and family if he has any then enjoying retirement somewhere other than a 5x9 cell.
he was not backed in any corner, he made he decision to commit murder.
stop making excuses.
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yregna
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Both of these men have no criminal record, both are over 50, both are in long term marriages, both have substantially more income and assets than their STBX. I'd give more weight to a reply from a person who was divorced after a long term marriage AND who had substantially more income during the marriage than the ex.
Matart1 is most likely one of the numerous gold plated divorcees out there...Yes the law worked for you...enjoy your trip to the bank.
When a person has worked 30+ years and through their own intelligence and diligence made a large fortune THEN is told their spouse can legally steal a huge part of that fortune they had little effort to create, they become violent. That isn't stupid, that is normal. What is stupid is to justify the theft...
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onerose
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I am strongly against any kind of alimony. But I have to agree that this man did not do this because of alimony. He did it because he is a loser freak. Not one place did it say anything about him being upset about alimony. He was just a murderer.
When I had my kids, I knew I took the chance of raising them on my own, mentally, physically and financially. And that chance did come true. But I have done it and done it on my own and did it well. Am still doing it.
Do people not realize that when they get married, it may not last forever, and then they will have to pay alimony?
Do people not realize that marriage may not be forever and they may have to support themselves?
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matart1
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while it is not surprising - you have it all wrong.
I am a female who worked for my own things in life.
when I divorced I took nothing but debt because it was better than marriage and I walked away without a backwards glance and have not given him one thought because I owe him nothing and he owes me nothing.
there was nothing gold plated about my divorce.
I do not rely on any man for my welfare.
but you can picture paint a situation all you want.
murder is murder.
while I do have a hard time justifying alimony.
assests should be divided in divorce.
stop your bellyaching.
I have no criminal record either but the minute I take the life of another individual, all the excuses in the world mean absolutely nothing - it is still murder and I should be tried as a criminal.
you know what is criminal - how come they never get the flipping order at the drive thru correct - it is so simple yet I still have pickles on the burger.....
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Debbie_L
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Can I have your extra pickles, lol? Mmmm...pickles...
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Rebecca5
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So how come the estranged wife of that guy in Texas tried to run him over? Wasn't she receiving alimony? I'm sure her craziness was because she was rolling in all his hard earned loot. Ahhh....money high.
If people do wacko things, it's because they're wacko....not because someone "made" them do it.
And before you start in on me....no, I never received spousal support, and I don't receive child support. I do, however, own my own home and all that jazz. As a general rule, I think SS is a shame. Fewer people should really be awarded SS....and that should be regardless of gender.
But...the argument presented is weak.
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M5M5
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Really? Did it make you a killer?
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Debbie_L
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I seriously hope old mud dab's (vregna) ex wife has a restraining order on the lunatic.
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Maxwell
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Money is never a reason to kill someone. None of these murder's have an excuse. They are sick people who need to be removed from society permanently, either in jail or capital punishment.
But I certainly do think a person can be backed into a corner. I would never kill because of an alimony order, but I can see simply giving up any attempt to pay it and simply turning myself in to the authorities. If the alimony order was simply to large for me to handle or more than I wanted it to be, I'd simply inform the judge/whoever I had no intention of paying and that if the ultimate result of nonpayment was jail that they could simply put me in jail now. Or if they were to garnish my check, and I could see that I'd ultimately end up homeless and perhaps without a job because I was homeless, I'd try to take the steps to move in that direction in some kind of dignified manner. Of course, some people would like nothing more than to see their exes lives destroyed in that manner. But I'm sure most actually want some money, so they might be trying to figure out how close they can push their ex to the tipping point without going over. But many of these greedy, lazy and perhaps clueless people don't seem to recognize that their spouse isn't an unlimited supply of free money and it seems sometimes the courts don't recognize the limits either. If you push past that limit, you will get nothing but a broken person.
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