yregna
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Friends and associates saw Robert and Teresa Beiser as devoted, hardworking parents who ran into problems but were trying hard to work them out. Both parents worked two jobs. They owned a three-bedroom, two-and-a-half-bath home on Southeast Oatfield Road, where they were rearing two children, 14-year-old Nicole and her 11-year-old brother, Drew. "They are -- were -- amazing parents," said Lana L. Traynor, a Portland attorney who has worked with the family. "They were very united for the kids." Both parents visited Tae Kwon Do 2 in Clackamas three or four times a week to watch Nicole work out and compete. Nicole, a freshman at Gladstone High School, has studied tae kwon do for four years and has a black belt. She has participated in major competitions in Las Vegas and Chicago. "Kids like Nicole have really good friends in here," said Al Dorsey, an instructor at Tae Kwon Do 2 and a family friend. "It's like one big family here. It's like a big martial arts support group." Then, last week, a crack appeared to outside observers. The Beisers, who were married in 1994, filed for divorce in Clackamas County Circuit Court. Teresa is listed as the petitioner.
By late afternoon Tuesday, a lone state trooper guarded the front of a drug-testing clinic where a man with a rifle opened fire, killing his estranged wife and injuring two of her co-workers. The gunman fired multiple shots inside Legacy MetroLab-Tualatin shortly before noon, said Tualatin Police Chief Kent Barker. The shooter was found dead at the scene, apparently of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, Barker said.
A 63-year-old man with multiple gunshot wounds was flown by air ambulance to OHSU Hospital in Portland while a 20-year-old woman was sent by ground ambulance to Legacy Emanuel Hospital after fleeing to a nearby Subway restaurant. The woman was aided by Subway patrons before the ambulance arrived.
Amazing parents' had just filed for divorce. Story here.The dead woman was identified as Teresa Beiser, 36, of Gladstone.
A week ago, she filed for divorce from her husband of 15 years, Robert Beiser, 39, who worked as a car appraiser for Property Damage Appraisers in Lake Oswego and as an independent contractor for The Oregonian.
They had two children, a 14-year-old daughter and an 11-year-old son.
Really if you think about it, Mr. Beiser wasn't going to find Justice in the Court. He was going to pay his ex to screw her new boyfriend, and he was going to pay a lot, a very lot. Evidently they took on the 2 job scenario to pay bills, but his ex found an easier way to pay her bills, and simulataneously dump her not rich enough hubby.
This guy is a hero in my book ! Absolute Hero !
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Maury
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You, my friend, are quite an idiot. It is amazing that you wish to put such ignorance on display.
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amazing
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Thats what I thought.
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Sherron
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"The shooter was found dead at the scene, apparently of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, Barker said. "
Well, that IS admirable, yes. It would have been even GREATER if he had been his first victim.
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yregna
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On Sunday, two days before the shooting, Robert stopped by the house he still owned with Teresa to pay his share of the mortgage, an issue that had become a sore subject. He flicked the money to the ground and left, according to Klettke.
After 15 years of marriage, Robert moved out of the couple's Gladstone home a few months ago, Klettke said, and divorce papers were filed Oct. 30 in Clackamas County Circuit Court, with Teresa listed as the petitioner.
I'm sorry, but this gives every indication that what we have here folks is a women who decided after 15 years of marriage that she wanted her husband OUT of her life.
But not his income, oh no...Not that....Keep the money, keep his IRA, keep his 401k, keep his children, keep his house, but get the man OUT of my life so I can enjoy my new boyfriend. That sound fair to you ? Yes, I understand its perfectly legal, I said does it sound fair ?
Robert Beiser is standing tall and proud in heaven right now because he struck a blow for fairness...
You know, if Teresa had it to do all over, would she insist on alimony ? Would she insist on 1/2 of his 401k ? Half of his IRA ? Half of the house equity ? I wonder....I'm sure if Robert had it to do all over again, he wouldn't get married.
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Goodmom
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[quote]
I'm sorry, but this gives every indication that what we have here folks is a women who decided after 15 years of marriage that she wanted her husband OUT of her life.
But not his income, oh no...Not that....Keep the money, keep his IRA, keep his 401k, keep his children, keep his house, but get the man OUT of my life so I can enjoy my new boyfriend. [/quote]
Given what he did, more than likely, it was a case of a wife trying to get away from the husband who abused her.
And even if she was leaving him for another man, that still didn't give him the righ to do what he did.
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Karen1
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No one except a very mentally deranged and sick f**k would admire this guy. But wait... I am talking about angery spelled backward here, and that's exactly what you are.
Do the majority of us a favor... (IMO, including your kids... and I hope they have not inheritated too many of your f'd up genes) ...and crawl back under that slimy rock at the bottom of the toxic filled cesspool where you were likely spawned You will be much happier there, you will fit right in with your surroundings.
IMO you are a mentally unbalanced, bitter man being eaten alive by your mind. Miserable life, that. Your EX is the winner here, and in many more ways than one. If you weren't so deranged and totally psycho someone might actually feel some empathy for you.
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yregna
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Nice try, but there is a TON of information in today's paper indicating the guy was a GREAT father, did stuff with his kids all the time, and worked steady TWO jobs.
Its kinda hard for you ladies to face the truth, ain't it ? It is just a whole lot easier to dismiss me and this dead guy by saying men are prone to violence, men are prone to mental disease, maybe he was on depression medication, maybe, whatever, who knows, etc...
Don't you have to wonder that a guy who by every indication was a great father and good husband, didn't even have a traffic ticket, snaps like this ? You really think the motivation here is a mystery ? Or is it easier to think that...Isn't it a whole lot easier to believe ANYTHING other than the truth:
Divorce law gives the woman the right to leave the relationship and punish the man with crippling payments. Divorce law gives the woman the right to leave the relationship and punish the man by limiting his visitation. Divorce law give the FEMALE all the rights, and none of the responsibilities.
Everyone knows if you take away everything from a person, and push them into a corner, they will fight back. I say Bravo to this guy for not being [censored] on, and instead fighting back.
Do you think Teresa Beiser would like to reconsider that demand for alimony now ? Do you think Teresa Beiser would like to reconsider that demand for 1/2 of his 401k ? Do you think Teresa Beiser would like to reconsider that demand for 1/2 of his IRA ? Do you think Teresa Beiser would like to reconsider how she kept the income from her job and spent it on the bodybuilding hobby and her new boyfriend, instead of helping with the mortgage ? Do you think Teresa Beiser would like to reconsider that demand for physical custody of the kids ?
Frankly, I'm grateful she won't get a chance to...But it sure would be interesting to ask her....
Isn't this why women are sooooo concerned about keeping their receipt of alimony secret from everyone, including their friends and children ? Kinda shameful, eh ?
Maybe you guys could try for one second to explain why this perfectly normal father of two turned into a homicidal maniac overnight ? Or is it easier to just hurl insults at me...?
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Goodmom
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[quote]Nice try, but there is a TON of information in today's paper indicating the guy was a GREAT father, did stuff with his kids all the time, and worked steady TWO jobs.[/quote]
My ex worked two steady jobs and spent quality time with the kids. Anybody who met him would never think that he was capable of abusing his wife in front of the kids.
Didn't change the fact that he was physically abusive.
The thing about abuse is that it is hidden away and kept secret. However; THIS guy's actions gives a whole lot of credibility to the argument that he was abusing his wife and she was trying to get away from him.
And EVEN IF he wasn't abusive and she was cheating (for all we know, HE could have been the one cheatingor even both of them were), he was completely 100% at fault for what HE did.
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yregna
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If I'm so ignorant, perhaps you can explain this guys motivation ? He wasn't a coward, he gave up everything to prove his point of view. Is it really so hard to explain ? Guy went to all his daughters twae kwon doe meets, including out of state for years and years. He worked tow jobs, he was a great neighbor by all accounts. Where are the violent behavior signs ? Where is the abuse by him ?
Until after he found out the awful truth of divorce law:
SHE HAS ALL THE RIGHTS, YOU HAVE NONE, OPEN YOUR WALLET.
Then, and only then, he became violent and angry. I wish he would have killed his wife's attorney and boyfriend. To bad the bystanders tried to stop him.
You also have to salute his example to his children, you know two kids who are gonna think long and hard before they want to marry, especially the son, which is a truly noble accomplishment.
I think it is just easier to say I'm nuts, eh ?
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