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Tim_M
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Re: As an aside...
      07/30/07 08:54 AM

"I am Catholic and divorced. Me going to hell is a foregone conclusion."

Not necessarily, Relayer. My understanding of Catholic theology (and I have a lot of respect for the Church) is that one may seek absolution, but cannot partake of the Eucharist. Theologically, one may remain unmarried after a divorce, and still be destined for Heaven. If one remarried, then one would have to live as "brother and sister" with the former spouse, and still enjoy the other joys that the Church has to offer.
Even the very fundamental churches I inferred earlier err in that they do not consider that one party to a divorce might never have wanted it in the first place; that party, if he or she remains unmarried, is not a willing participant in the sin of that divorce.

In the eyes of God, I will always be married to my wife, whether or not she persists in a civil divorce, because there was no adultery. I will NEVER date another woman or remarry again, unless it is to my STBX again. This keeps me blameless in the eyes of God (Luke 16:18), and preserves the option of possible reconciliation in the future.

But I am not judging anyone here, simply trying to show you that divorce, while hated by God, is not a sure "ticket" to Hell...

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* Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M 07/18/07 08:37 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse almostheaven   07/18/07 07:26 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse googledad   07/18/07 11:04 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse almostheaven   07/19/07 09:09 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/19/07 05:15 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/19/07 07:56 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/19/07 02:14 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/19/07 03:30 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse almostheaven   07/19/07 05:42 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/19/07 05:48 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/19/07 05:46 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/02/07 01:35 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   08/02/07 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/02/07 07:09 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse April9418   08/06/07 06:20 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/06/07 06:40 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/09/07 11:21 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   08/09/07 06:10 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/10/07 09:01 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   08/11/07 09:50 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   08/11/07 04:27 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/11/07 07:28 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   08/11/07 08:48 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/11/07 10:53 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   08/11/07 03:59 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   08/11/07 07:09 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   08/11/07 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/12/07 10:22 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   08/12/07 12:00 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/12/07 12:48 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   08/12/07 03:14 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/12/07 08:22 PM
. * * I have an unrelated question... almostheaven   08/12/07 09:06 PM
. * * Re: I have an unrelated question... Tim_M   08/12/07 09:19 PM
. * * Re: I have an unrelated question... almostheaven   08/12/07 10:47 PM
. * * BTW... almostheaven   08/12/07 10:51 PM
. * * Re: BTW... Relayer   08/13/07 04:15 AM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   08/13/07 06:32 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/13/07 06:46 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Relayer   08/13/07 08:01 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/13/07 10:37 AM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   08/16/07 11:04 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/16/07 12:28 PM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   08/17/07 08:08 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/17/07 08:38 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/17/07 12:24 PM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/18/07 08:01 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Relayer   08/18/07 10:09 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/18/07 10:15 AM
. * * Re: BTW... almostheaven   08/18/07 10:15 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Relayer   08/18/07 10:53 AM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   08/18/07 11:11 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/18/07 11:29 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Relayer   08/18/07 11:48 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/18/07 02:07 PM
. * * Re: BTW... Relayer   08/18/07 02:46 PM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   08/19/07 11:23 AM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   08/29/07 07:42 PM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   08/30/07 07:23 AM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   09/29/07 08:47 PM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   09/30/07 07:40 AM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   09/30/07 09:30 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Tim_M   09/30/07 09:57 AM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   11/13/07 05:49 PM
. * * Re: BTW... emilar   08/18/07 11:41 AM
. * * Re: BTW... Relayer   08/18/07 11:15 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/09/07 06:39 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse almostheaven   08/09/07 05:22 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/09/07 06:14 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse almostheaven   08/09/07 06:25 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/09/07 06:40 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/09/07 01:02 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   08/09/07 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/09/07 06:47 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   08/10/07 08:58 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/10/07 01:44 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   08/10/07 03:50 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   08/10/07 07:59 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   08/09/07 05:15 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse almostheaven   08/09/07 05:23 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/20/07 07:52 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse almostheaven   07/20/07 06:16 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/20/07 08:42 PM
. * * CANCEL THEM!!!!!! almostheaven   07/20/07 08:45 PM
. * * Not to mention... almostheaven   07/20/07 08:46 PM
. * * Re: Not to mention... Tim_M   07/20/07 08:49 PM
. * * Re: Not to mention... almostheaven   07/20/07 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Not to mention... Tim_M   07/20/07 09:00 PM
. * * Re: Not to mention... Tim_M   07/20/07 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Not to mention... Relayer   07/21/07 04:04 AM
. * * Re: Not to mention... Tim_M   07/21/07 11:55 AM
. * * Exactly... almostheaven   07/21/07 08:26 PM
. * * Re: Exactly... Relayer   07/22/07 05:34 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/20/07 08:01 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/20/07 09:20 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/20/07 10:25 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse almostheaven   07/19/07 05:48 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/18/07 10:13 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/18/07 12:55 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/18/07 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/18/07 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   08/12/07 09:36 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse jaiye   07/23/07 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/23/07 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   07/29/07 06:00 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/29/07 07:16 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   07/29/07 08:15 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/29/07 08:43 PM
. * * As an aside... almostheaven   07/29/07 09:21 PM
. * * Re: As an aside... Relayer   07/30/07 06:07 AM
. * * Re: As an aside... almostheaven   07/30/07 11:18 AM
. * * Re: As an aside... Tim_M   07/30/07 06:10 AM
. * * Re: As an aside... Relayer   07/30/07 06:30 AM
. * * Re: As an aside... Tim_M   07/30/07 06:36 AM
. * * Re: As an aside... Relayer   07/30/07 08:02 AM
. * * Re: As an aside... Tim_M   07/30/07 08:54 AM
. * * Actually, you do have an out... almostheaven   07/30/07 11:20 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/30/07 11:29 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Relayer   07/30/07 12:50 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/30/07 01:07 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Relayer   07/30/07 01:39 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/30/07 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/30/07 04:05 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... almostheaven   07/30/07 10:02 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Relayer   07/30/07 06:55 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/30/07 07:29 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... almostheaven   07/30/07 10:07 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 05:31 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/31/07 09:44 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 10:13 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/31/07 10:20 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 11:09 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... almostheaven   07/31/07 10:20 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   08/01/07 07:33 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Relayer   07/31/07 12:04 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 12:17 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Relayer   07/31/07 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... almostheaven   07/31/07 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 12:24 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... almostheaven   07/31/07 10:22 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Relayer   07/31/07 12:36 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Relayer   07/31/07 12:36 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 12:47 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/31/07 01:22 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 01:46 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/31/07 02:42 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 03:33 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/31/07 07:28 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 07:37 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... almostheaven   07/31/07 10:25 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/31/07 09:23 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   08/01/07 07:49 AM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   08/01/07 06:12 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   08/01/07 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   08/01/07 06:49 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   08/01/07 07:07 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   08/01/07 07:16 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   08/01/07 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Relayer   07/31/07 01:11 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/31/07 01:14 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/30/07 07:23 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/30/07 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/30/07 07:55 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/30/07 08:23 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/30/07 09:00 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... Tim_M   07/30/07 09:18 PM
. * * Re: Actually, you do have an out... emilar   07/30/07 10:07 PM
. * * Re: As an aside... Relayer   07/30/07 08:56 AM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse emilar   07/29/07 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/18/07 02:43 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/18/07 02:55 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/18/07 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/18/07 06:17 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Relayer   07/18/07 06:43 PM
. * * Re: Reversed role emotional abuse Tim_M   07/18/07 07:14 PM

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