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Re: I guess I'm missing something here...
      04/26/08 02:17 PM

I'll try to be more careful with quotation marks. If I quote a previous post, AND use them around hypothetical dialog, I can see the challenge. To me, they're not THAT directive or crucial, but I'm not the reader. I thought you KNEW the position you were defending, which was best exemplified by her prior statement. Apparently, not. I also assumed you could tell when I was entering "the conversation would sound like this..." land. But okay.

"And to me it's not." Right, we don't agree on christine's motivation. So you attempted to put words in my mouth that her motivation was solely money. Not sure why...to argue Relayer in your response to me? But proper discussion happens when we respond to what other people actually say (accomplished by first reading their posts); not by mischaracterizing or changing what's been said. I'm trying to do that regarding your post right now, and consistently for christine too.

You know, I agree with you in that christine likely HAS budged in many ways on many subjects with this guy for years. But then again, who knows? But on THIS issue, she essentially said they CANNOT live with dad in the summer, because he hasn't been a good dad yet. But the ways to prove his goodness are being defined by her and not working for dad.

While christine is ALSO saying she's offered him multiple ways for them to be with dad and that she does want that. So lets not now act like they simply can't be with him because she's apparently already offered it.

And blocking it because he's disconnected with their daily life is terrible excuse making. Of course he's disconnected; he's six hours away and they aren't with him yet. This summer, they'd set up new daily life routine and then christine will be disconnected. Does it make christine bad to be disconnected? No. Wouldn't want them kept permananently by dad because of disconnection, now would we? So be fair and quit using disconnection as a reason "they can't live with him." (sorry I didn't look that quote up explicitly but I KNOW christine said something like that earlier...that's a psuedo-quote from an earlier christine1 post.)

I apologize for being confusing. That's not my intention. I am trying to make sense. I acknowlege that comprehension is very much due to how well I express myself.

However, I still don't get after suggesting much LESS than the whole summer, how I would be argued by almostheaven about the "whole" summer. It's simply misrepresenting others to argue with nonexistent positions. Because if you instead deal with the discussion accurately, your position is weakened and your logic is sketchy.

I'm aware that apprently the only thing he said he wants is summer. And that some of us have concluded it's solely to reduce CS obligation. Doesn't change anything.

Instead of simply saying "No" christine might be able to get dad to take these already offered long weekends and the week (formerly for Christmas...it was apparently safe then, so its not more dangerous in summer right?) during the summer. He doesn't need to know their school schedule or much of anything about mom's routines then. He doesn't need to drive 6 hours for a 1 day visit. Couple it with the CS break he wants, remember money doesn't matter, and things really might happen. Things that would be good for the kids and dad, and apparently what christine WANTS.

I just don't like claims that aren't backed up by corresponding actions. Just don't make the claims in the first place and there is no hypocrisy.

As for the psyche consult, why offer Christmas and extended weekends if pyche was against kids being with dad? If he got TWO psyche consults that said there are benefits to being with his kids, would that trump your psychologist? He could you know.

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* motion to reconsider childsupport christine1 04/21/08 05:17 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Rebecca5   04/21/08 06:58 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport christine1   04/21/08 07:35 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Rebecca5   04/21/08 08:06 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport christine1   04/21/08 08:11 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport sally1234   04/23/08 07:27 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport motorboater   04/23/08 08:23 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Rebecca5   04/21/08 08:16 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport christine1   04/21/08 08:19 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Rebecca5   04/21/08 10:27 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport christine1   04/22/08 06:26 AM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport momtoall   04/28/08 03:23 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport christine1   04/22/08 06:40 AM
. * * Save the email.... almostheaven   04/25/08 07:26 AM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport accesskas   04/22/08 06:56 AM
. * * Sure he did... gr8Dad   04/22/08 11:42 AM
. * * Re: Sure he did... Relayer   04/22/08 11:45 AM
. * * Re: Sure he did... christine1   04/22/08 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Sure he did... motorboater   04/22/08 11:31 PM
. * * Re: Sure he did... christine1   04/23/08 05:50 PM
. * * Re: Sure he did... ssmom79   04/23/08 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Sure he did... motorboater   04/23/08 06:30 PM
. * * I guess I'm missing something here... almostheaven   04/25/08 07:30 AM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/25/08 11:40 AM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... almostheaven   04/25/08 12:44 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/25/08 04:03 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/25/08 03:29 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... almostheaven   04/26/08 07:40 AM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/26/08 02:17 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... almostheaven   04/27/08 08:58 AM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/27/08 01:01 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... almostheaven   04/27/08 04:27 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/27/08 08:20 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... almostheaven   04/29/08 07:35 AM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/29/08 09:42 AM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... almostheaven   04/29/08 11:30 AM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/29/08 03:52 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... almostheaven   05/02/08 08:11 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... christine1   04/29/08 05:35 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/29/08 06:06 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... christine1   04/29/08 06:33 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... Relayer   04/27/08 08:25 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... christine1   04/26/08 01:10 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... motorboater   04/26/08 03:54 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... Relayer   04/26/08 06:09 PM
. * * Blah blah blah... almostheaven   04/27/08 08:59 AM
. * * Re: Blah blah blah... christine1   04/27/08 11:58 AM
. * * Re: Blah blah blah... motorboater   04/27/08 09:49 PM
. * * Re: Blah blah blah... almostheaven   04/27/08 04:16 PM
. * * Re: I guess I'm missing something here... Relayer   04/25/08 12:42 PM
. * * Re: Sure he did... Rebecca5   04/22/08 11:10 PM
. * * OMG!... almostheaven   04/25/08 07:32 AM
. * * Re: Sure he did... motorboater   04/22/08 06:29 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Cassie23   04/21/08 09:39 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Relayer   04/21/08 08:10 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport christine1   04/21/08 07:36 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Relayer   04/21/08 08:05 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Buckeye   04/21/08 06:45 PM
. * * Re: motion to reconsider childsupport Relayer   04/21/08 06:55 PM

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