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Re: Find the post...
      06/07/08 09:34 PM

[quote]...because I would NEVER have said that. So I am denying that the conversation EVER took place. If you find the thread, I MAY reconsider, but I would not say that you were right and women DON'T abuse more, when the FACT of the matter is that they DO.

I realize that you want to take "neglect" out of the equation, and while that would affect the numbers SOMEWHAT, it would not drop them to the level you claim. And as a father to a child that was PHYSICALLY abused by her mom, and a male child who was NEGLECTED by his mom, I can tell you that the effects are FAR worse with the neglect. The physical abuse is bad enough, but most of the injuries heal. The neglect leaves one doubting their own self worth, and wondering why is WRONG with them that their own parent doesn't want them.

And I will add that by attempting to separate the two, claiming one is somehow not as BAD as the other, so it is okay, is simply nauseating and BENEATH you. It would be akin to someone saying that because one rapist didn't leave marks, he is somehow BETTER than another rapist who does leaves bruises. Either way, it is RAPE and either way, it is ABUSE.

As for how I help, I used to teach a class on parenting in our county, until my marriage to my stbx, where I was raising 8 children who have all been abused. I was not slamming what YOU did, please do not do the same to me. [/quote]

There IS a difference between the two. "Neglect" includes medical, educational and environmental issues. There is NO comparison between a dirty house and and sexual molestation. ZERO. NONE. So it's NOT "beneath" me...it's the friggin TRUTH. It's absolutely LUDICROUS to claim that a child who is BEATEN by their parent suffers as much as a child who doesn't get their school immunizations on time. And YES, those two very minor (by comparison) infractions ARE counted as neglect.

While the children you have cared for have suffered....more than most people can possibly imagine....it does NOT change the TRUTH...and is NOT the bar by which all other cases are compared. Yes, women are more neglectful. No, women are not more abusive. In fact, in our LAST discussion about this issue, we broke down ALL of the statistics, and it was VERY clear that more MEN are perpetrators of physical and sexual abuse.

No...what you claimed was that I denied that abuse by women "EXISTS," which is a HUGE load of bullshit. I wasn't "slamming" what you used to do. I WAS "slamming" your insinuation. It offends the very heart of everything I have worked for.

What I thoroughly believe that you do is purposefully misuse the word "abuse" for maximum impact. It sounds more convincing....makes your argument seem more powerful than it really is. I believe you misstate that little falsehood on purpose, and it's gross. Want to change to "maltreatment"...then great. THAT would be accurate. But of course not....it doesn't sound as "good" to you. Barf.

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* STBX "going through" children SCgirl 03/26/08 10:04 AM
. * * Re: STBX "going through" children MeandLiv   05/30/08 08:13 PM
. * * The FACT of the matter... gr8Dad   06/05/08 08:00 PM
. * * Re: The FACT of the matter... Rebecca5   06/05/08 10:27 PM
. * * Re: The FACT of the matter... googledad   06/07/08 01:10 PM
. * * Re: The FACT of the matter... Rebecca5   06/07/08 08:21 PM
. * * What sickens me most... gr8Dad   06/07/08 01:31 PM
. * * Re: What sickens me most... Rebecca5   06/07/08 08:33 PM
. * * Nothing was misrepresented... gr8Dad   06/07/08 01:06 PM
. * * Re: Nothing was misrepresented... Rebecca5   06/07/08 08:16 PM
. * * Yes, we HAVE been through it... gr8Dad   06/07/08 08:18 PM
. * * Re: Yes, we HAVE been through it... Rebecca5   06/07/08 08:23 PM
. * * Find the post... gr8Dad   06/07/08 09:12 PM
. * * Re: Find the post... Rebecca5   06/07/08 09:34 PM
. * * Re: Find the post... googledad   06/08/08 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Find the post... gdave44   06/08/08 06:04 PM
. * * Re: Find the post... Rebecca5   06/08/08 11:13 PM
. * * Re: Find the post... gdave44   06/10/08 09:03 AM
. * * Oh, so Mommies... gr8Dad   06/07/08 09:45 PM
. * * Re: Oh, so Mommies... Rebecca5   06/07/08 09:55 PM
. * * Right here... gr8Dad   06/07/08 10:04 PM
. * * Re: Right here... mommyof9   10/05/08 01:42 PM
. * * Re: Right here... Rebecca5   06/07/08 10:12 PM
. * * Re: STBX "going through" children yregna   06/05/08 06:11 PM
. * * Re: STBX "going through" children beetlebug   03/26/08 04:14 PM
. * * Re: STBX "going through" children 2Gr8Kdz84   03/28/08 05:01 PM

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