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aussie928
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Re: My responses, step by step...

12/05/04 09:28 AM

Gr8dad I do agree with you that what a male offers his children should be taken into consideration but woman bashing isnt the answer nor is blaming our problems on them. Its like getting racked off at the convict that gets out of jail. Blame the system, change the system, and the fact is it is changing as 20 years ago it was damn near impossible for a male to get custody regardless of the circumstances. For those that say why should we have to wait..why did women have to wait. Men always got custody in the 1900s and it wasnt necessarily because they were better at it. Wifes were considered property back then as was a mans children. What we learned about your country in school is the americas first start out on an issue way to far in one direction and then go completely the opposite direction until they find a middle ground. Personally I think this is what happened here. IS it fair no...but neither was the prior way of doing things. This is why equality to me means looking at the individual case not some arbitrary rule. To your comment that you dont know of any company that gives time off for hunting, I know several and no they dont have to have vacation time. To the pill issue..some countries do have this. Yes you think that both sexes should be responsible for birth control and they should mate, but I would bet you would find many men dont agree here. Yes a woman can relinquish her responsibilites to a child any time she wants by doing this but how many men have relinquished their responsibilities and thats the reason she IS doing this. Being home with children doesnt make you the best parent either. There are men out there that are as good and as involved as the mother in their childrens lives. Getting them ready for bed, helping with homework, taking them to their games etc. Its quality time, not quantity. For fathers like that of course they should take into consideration all. What I am talking about is the men that did nothing but bring the pay home and think this makes them as good of a parent. It doesnt. To the draft issue, thats a system that needs to be changed but again these are men making these laws. And truth be told alot of men dont want women fighting along side of them. Your comment that if a woman is unhappy she should go to a marriage counselor instead of someone else bed. I couldnt agree more. And nothing will excuse this in my book by either party and there are women and wmen that will do this with little provocation but there are also the circumstances where she has discussed this...she is not happy...and she is married to one of the Erics of the world..male or female...who says..you're not happy.. get over it ..or you caused it. Affairs have little to do with sex. Again, I want equality, but thats not what the likes of Eric want...they want MEN...men are better...men are this..men are that..is that really any better then women are better..women are this...women are that..NO. What I want...look at my marriage..my children..my life.. and make your decisions based on that and only that. In my situation...my ex and I cared enough about each other and the children to work this all out between ourselves. The judge just signed the papers. WE didnt give our control up to the system. I know not everyone is this lucky. The fact is their our horror stories on both sides. And nbot all of this horro plays out in a courtroom. I know of men and women that on the surface of things...either would be a good parent. BUt the rubbish one was pulling on the other to try and position themselves in court..or trying to financially ruin the other.. or emotionally ruin the other...showed the judge their interest was not for the child but for themselves.

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Subject	Posted by	Posted on
A Tired Mom in VA	qeggleston1	12/01/04 01:11 PM
Re: A Tired Mom in VA	Eric	12/02/04 11:00 AM
Re: A Tired Mom in VA	qeggleston1	12/02/04 01:32 PM
Re: A Tired Mom in VA	qeggleston1	12/02/04 01:24 PM
Tired Mom...	Eric	12/02/04 01:44 PM
Re: Tired Mom...	aussie928	12/02/04 01:46 PM
Child support Costs	aussie928	12/03/04 07:33 PM
How is some of this possible?	gr8Dad	12/03/04 07:50 PM
Re: How is some of this possible?	aussie928	12/03/04 09:31 PM
The whole study is old and flawed...	gr8Dad	12/03/04 11:39 PM
Re: The whole study is old and flawed...	aussie928	12/04/04 02:40 PM
Of course...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 04:19 PM
The courts don't seem to share your view	Melody	12/04/04 08:50 PM
Re: Of course...	aussie928	12/04/04 05:48 PM
And that is where we differ most...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 06:09 PM
Re: And that is where we differ most...	Gecko	12/04/04 07:25 PM
So you think it is fair...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 07:34 PM
Re: So you think it is fair...	Gecko	12/05/04 03:08 PM
Geeeeccckkkkieeee Babe?	Eric	12/05/04 03:26 PM
Re: Erica Babe?	Onyx	12/06/04 07:20 AM
"Personally? I never post to reply to them." (nm)	almostheaven	12/05/04 08:15 PM
Re: Geeeeccckkkkieeee Babe?	Gecko	12/05/04 03:33 PM
Gecko.......AND OTHERS.....	Onyx	12/06/04 07:28 AM
How cute... :)	Eric	12/05/04 03:37 PM
"Personally? I never post to reply to them."	almostheaven	12/05/04 08:16 PM
Re: How cute... :)	Gecko	12/05/04 04:39 PM
Re: How cute... :)	aussie928	12/05/04 03:40 PM
Not to defend Eric, BUT...	gr8Dad	12/05/04 04:02 PM
and, why would you not...	Eric	12/05/04 04:45 PM
Re: and, why would you not...	Onyx	12/06/04 07:23 AM
"girly man"...	almostheaven	12/06/04 08:39 AM
Re: and, why would you not...	aussie928	12/05/04 04:50 PM
Re: Not to defend Eric, BUT...	Gecko	12/05/04 04:40 PM
Re: Not to defend Eric, BUT...	aussie928	12/05/04 04:33 PM
How stupid...	Eric	12/05/04 04:39 PM
"Personally? I never post to reply to them"....	almostheaven	12/05/04 08:17 PM
Re: How stupid...	aussie928	12/05/04 04:41 PM
Re: So you think it is fair...	aussie928	12/04/04 08:58 PM
My responses, step by step...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 10:34 PM
Re: My responses, step by step...	aussie928	12/05/04 09:28 AM
Re: My responses, step by step...	Grace	12/05/04 12:45 PM
Re: My responses, step by step...	Eric	12/05/04 06:15 AM
Re: My responses, step by step...	almostheaven	12/05/04 01:11 PM
Re: My responses, step by step...	aussie928	12/05/04 12:43 PM
Re: My responses, step by step...	Onyx	12/05/04 12:00 PM
Between you and I, Big "O,"	Eric	12/05/04 12:45 PM
"Personally? I never post to reply to them." (eom)	almostheaven	12/05/04 01:12 PM
Think about it...	Eric	12/05/04 01:14 PM
Re: Think about it...	aussie928	12/05/04 01:28 PM
"Personally? I never post to reply to them."...	almostheaven	12/05/04 01:14 PM
Re: Between you and I, Big "O,"	aussie928	12/05/04 12:58 PM
Re: My responses, step by step...	aussie928	12/05/04 08:53 AM
Re: Of course...	Grace	12/04/04 04:57 PM
The problem with using that line of thinking...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 05:01 PM
Yes Gr8dad, BUT.......	Onyx	12/06/04 07:13 AM
Re: The problem with using that line of thinking...	Grace	12/04/04 05:23 PM
It would be an interesting study...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 05:32 PM
Re: It would be an interesting study...	aussie928	12/04/04 09:01 PM
No, I mean the fact that they...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 10:20 PM
Re: The whole study is old and flawed...	Onyx	12/04/04 03:25 AM
That is the problem with no fault divorce...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 04:14 PM
Re: That is the problem with no fault divorce...	aussie928	12/04/04 05:24 PM
Calm down MATE...	gr8Dad	12/04/04 05:35 PM
Yup. It costs more because of lifestyle...	almostheaven	12/04/04 10:04 AM
Re: A Tired Mom in VA	aussie928	12/02/04 01:24 PM
Re: A Tired Mom in VA	qeggleston1	12/02/04 01:38 PM
Re: A Tired Mom in VA	aussie928	12/02/04 01:45 PM
They won't "stop" them...	almostheaven	12/01/04 04:31 PM

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