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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness
      02/08/12 10:30 AM

I knew "nope" could not provide the reports that is why I kept asking him

Gr8: this mans children were taken for their safety as protocol with CPS. Anytime there is child p orn in the home regardless of who's it is the children are removed so the environment and everyone in it can be investigated. Man or woman - doesn't matter. The children should have been returned but they were not so there has to be something we are not privy to in order to keep them longer. He was working toward reunification evidenced by the twice weekly in-home visits but there was something preventing his having them immediately. He decided he couldn't wait or follow another rule and killed them in an inhumane manner by using a hatchet and then blowing them up. Courts often add more rules if they see fit and there HAS to be an issue and it HAS to be backed up - it cannot be willy nilly hunches. Having been associated with CPS that is how it works.

There was a made for tv movie based on a true story where a woman had here children taken from her over innocent pictures of her children in the bum and diapers. There was an investigation and an overzealous prosecutor involved. The place the film was turned (the place she always used) in to be developed called the authorities. If I remember correctly it was around the McMartin trials and there was a heightened sensitivity to anything involving pictures of children not fully dressed. Needless to say it happens to anyone and it is SCARY that it can happen that way but in Josh's case the pictures were of child p orn and other issues making the taking of the children a requirement.

Andrea Yates was insane. She had a long complicated verifiable mental health history, which is necessary to plead insanity. There are certain criteria to meet in order for the defense to be successful and I believe it is something like only 1% of cases are allowed to use the insanity defense - it is very low percentage if it is not 1% - I am drawing from a class I took a couple semesters ago and don't ave the book right here in front of me. Heat of passion is a justifiable defense to reduce charges of murder or 2nd degree murder to voluntary manslaughter.

Josh was clearly NOT insane - he carefully planned and executed the deaths of his children and he utilized cruelty by chopping them with the hatchet - does the hatchet suggest insanity - no it suggests EVIL.

He was not pushed into doing what he did by his own words he said he is not a lesser person and due to his resilience the investigation was proving difficult because he had nothing to hide. He was standing up to your perceived pressures. His children were taken, rightfully so, he wanted them back and was working towards that, a rule was added, he didn't like it and wanted it to happen NOW so he chose to love them to death...

It is no stretch to think that something was coming to light and he did not want it too and he did what he did to have control of his property and make sure no one else did - is there evidence to this - we will most likely never know.

Defend him if you must

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