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Re: Poor George Zimmerman
      06/27/12 09:38 PM

"Martin was concerned for his safety, as was conveyed by the girlfriend."

So concerned that he continued to talk to her and not call the police? Doesn't sound like fear to ME. Of course, we only hold ZIMMERMAN to that standard when we say if HE was afraid, he shouldn't have gotten out of his car.

" Zimmerman was not just walking around but was deliberately and with intent, following him."

And IF that was happening (we will address that in a minute) Zimmerman was still PERFECTLY WITHIN HIS RIGHTS. I can folow you through a public place ALL DAY LONG, and its legal.

"Didn’t Martin run? Didn’t Zimmerman lose sight of him and then hunt for him? Thus, he instigated what subsequently occurred."

Martin ran before Zimmerman got out of the car. Martin ran up the street and around the corner. Zimmerman, having lost sight of him, headed in that direction to see where he went. When the police said to stop following, he headed back to his car, and Martin confronted him.

"He was also armed with a pistol. Do you really think Martin started beating on this stranger simply for catching up to him if he wasn’t scared to death?"

The pistol was holstered and not visible. Martin RAN before Zimmerman got out of the CAR. He had no idea Zimmerman had a pistol until he SAW IT and tried to GRAB it.

"Do you think it unlikely that Zimmerman, who was determined to stop this punk, would not have either intentionally made the gun visible or outright pulled it out in order to threaten the punk to keep him there?"

Okay, that is not what the evidence suggests, but lets assume that happened. What kind of MORON sees a guy with a GUN trained on them and ATTACKS that person, when they are NOT cornered? And if he DID attack Zimmerman when he had the gun out, how the HELL did he PUNCH him in the face and bang his head, while Zimmerman had a GUN trained on him? It makes NO sense.

"And let’s talk about intent. Tell me what Martin’s intent was as he walked home, and tell me what Zimmerman’s intent was when he called 911."

We have no idea what Martin's intent was. We know Zimmerman saw what he thought was suspicious, and called police on it. While he was on the phone, Martin walked up to his car, stared at him, then ran away. Sorry, but THAT is suspicious, even if the reason for the original call was NOT. And call me old fashioned, but a guy walking with his faced covered, strolling along, in the RAIN, is suspicious.

"Who instigated? Who had intent to harm if events escalated?"

Who had intent to harm if the situation escalated? Well, ME, and anyone else who values their own life. Sorry, perhaps I am not understanding what you are getting at, but a person who carries a gun does so with the intent of PROTECTING themselves if a situation escalates.

Oh, and I didn't post the text of the 911 call, because if you cannot find it by now, you never will, lol.

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