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#771743 - 04/30/16 10:05 PM child visitation in TX
txmom16 Offline

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My 16 year old has become very apprehensive about going to her dad's for her summer visitation this year. We live almost 7 hours apart and she is getting to the point where she wants to get a job so she can have her own money but what job is going to let a 16 yr old take a 2 month vacation. She is supposed to go to her dads for the entirety of the summer based on our divorce decree but with her being 16 can she refuse to do her summer visitation? she is becoming increasingly depressed as we get closer to summer vacation and I have been telling her that I do not have a choice-that legally I have to keep the relationship avenue open so that she can have a relationship with her father or I could be held in contempt of court. Can she legally refuse to go on her visitation? I know neither I nor her father have the money to go through a legal battle at the moment and I really don't want to fight with him but is there a point where the child can just say that she does not want to be away from home for 2 1/2 months when she is wanting to grow into an adult and have a job, do her drivers education so she can start to drive the car that was already bought for her, make her own money, participate in the summer programs at school that will help her with pursuing her music(she is a member of the band and they have clinics all summer to assist in marching band prep.)Can she determine that maybe she wants to only go for a couple weeks? She talks on the phone to her father multiple times a day everyday and goes for visitation over Christmas break and her spring break also. I know some of her apprehension comes from the fact that her dad lives with his mom-her grandmother-and that her grandmother is constantly putting myself and her friends down, telling her that I do not spend enough time with her because I recently got a promotion at work and have been coming home later than I used to, telling her that she is hanging around with the wrong crowd just because of the color of her friends' skin(her dads side of the family is very racist). Of course when I look at it from her point of view that I would not want to be around someone that did nothing but critize the life that you enjoy and the friends and family that you love but is that good enough for her to make this decision? When is a teenager considered old enough to decide if she wants to spend time with someone and when she doesn't?

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#771744 - 05/01/16 06:24 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: txmom16]
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If she went to Dad's for her next regular visit, and decided she wanted to STAY there, would you swap custody and let her make the decision?

If not, good for you, and also, she needs to go to her Dad's for the summer.
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#771745 - 05/03/16 07:54 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: gr8Dad]
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I am in a similar situation though not as drastic. It's hard ... there is a difference between being a child and being a minor. Your daughter is 16 so legally she is still a minor but she's not a child. If I were 16 I would not want to leave my friends, etc for the summer to live with my dad. Can you blame her? I feel for all of you. It's not an easy situation. What does her dad say about all of this? Is he willing to compromise a bit and have her come for part of the time? I know a lot of people on here say you can't let the kids make the decision, and I agree but to a point. Once you have a 15-16-17 year old it's a whole new ball game and I think it's best to at least try to work out a situation where there is some compromise. If you force it, all you have is an angry resentful teenager who doesn't feel supported by either one of her parents. Good luck!

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#771746 - 05/04/16 04:24 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: bum]
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What I wonder is if Dad is entitled to the whole summer, and he REDUCES his legally obligated time...how is that a "compromise"? Mom is legally BOUND to have the child there, so Mom is giving up NOTHING.
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#771747 - 05/10/16 01:53 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: gr8Dad]
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Mom is giving up nothing. Dad is giving up a lot. And the 16 yo daughter is giving up the most. Kids are not possessions that can be split 50/50. Her feelings should be taken into account here, not what either of the parents are "entitled" to.

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#771748 - 05/22/16 11:16 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: bum]
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Seems the 16 year old is getting EXACTLY what she wants, LOL
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#771749 - 06/03/16 03:23 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: gr8Dad]
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totally agree mom. Parents should listen to their children. They have feelings. Especially her being 16. Good luck to you guys!

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#771750 - 06/04/16 07:00 AM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: Daisymae830]
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No, parents should PARENT their children.
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#771751 - 06/29/16 01:33 AM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: gr8Dad]
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Update-I made her go for her visitation. she has been crying herself to sleep every night and has been getting harassed by her family there for continuously posting on my facebook page how much she misses me and counting down the days until she comes home. I am worried about her mental health now because if she is crying herself to sleep at night and no one there is even bothering to console her or let her get her feelings out and listen to what she is feeling, is that really a healthy environment for her? she is coming home 2 weeks early because she HAS to go to band camp starting on the 1st of august or she will be kicked out of band but even that every one there, including her dad, keep telling her that everything else is more important than them. I am trying to be supportive by making her go and holding up my part of the agreement, I don't believe in keeping my kids from their dad, I don't bad mouth him, I don't talk about our past and what happened between us, I don't bad mouth anyone in his family, I just lend a supportive ear when my kids want to vent about it. I wish for my kids sakes that their dad's family would play by the same rules. it is like it is a crime that my 16 year old and I are extremely close and she has a hard time away from home but to be made to feel like she is neglecting her other family is just too much in my opinion. my kids aren't stupid and they remember what happened and they understand more and more every year why I decided to more them away from that environment.

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#771752 - 06/29/16 07:28 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: txmom16]
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Your job as a parent is to teach her coping skills, as it appears this doesn't have much as a 16 year old. Rather than Facebook, give her a private journal to write her thoughts in.

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#771753 - 06/30/16 12:50 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: txmom16]
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First (and I have a son who was VERY VERY involved in band) they will waive the band camp requirement if you have a COURT ORDER stating parenting time is taking place.

YOU are causing the problem by TOLERATING the crying and bullshit. Yes, it IS irritating when you are trying to spend quality time with your child and their face is CONSTANTLY stuck in a cell phone telling Mommy how much she misses here. Cut the crap and let him have his time.
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#771754 - 06/30/16 12:50 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: MinnesotaMom]
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OMG, she is SIXTEEN, and CRYING herself to sleep cause she misses MOMMY...really? I missed the age, figured 10 or 12.
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#771755 - 07/06/16 12:29 PM Re: child visitation in TX [Re: MinnesotaMom]
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Ok my 2 cents.... Coping skills: yes I agree that is very important as well as respecting both parents and the visitation time for the non-custodial parent. I also believe that both parents should be mutually supportive of the child/children's interests. "Parenting": yes that is something that both mother and father should do and it should be done in a mutual way that aids in the development of the child (not hinder the child or cause resentment toward one or both) As I have stated on this forum before, many people can be a mother or father, but not everyone can be a parent. Yes gr8Dad there is a huge difference. I too was extremely cautious about what I said to and around my children regarding their father and his family. I never wanted to have to explain to my children later in life why I imposed my negative feelings on them. My children are both grown now (2 girls ages 28 and 23) but they still talk about the fact that they were forced to go for visitation with their father during summer and had to leave home, friends, athletic activities and were not able to have summer jobs. My oldest is very resentful toward her father for forcing her to stay with him and not allowing her to participate in summer athletics when she was 12, 13, 14. The High school team was required to practice every day during the summer, so by the time she turned 15, she just flat our refused to go see her Father during the summer and told him that he would have to work around her schedule not the other way around. BUT the divorce agreement also stated that no visitation shall interfere with church, school, family or extra curricular activities, so that was what saved me from getting into trouble.
The younger one says it just caused her to be very resentful toward him for forcing her to do something just because he wanted to show me that he could (that's where the parenting skills enter the picture).
Now as adults.... My daughters do not have a close relationship with their Father and I feel like part of that is that he dictated to them instead of guiding them or supported their extra curricular interests.

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