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#772850 - 12/24/16 02:49 AM Obama sides with the terrorists... again
Sherron Offline
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Defying pressure, U.S. lets U.N. denounce Israeli settlements

The United States on Friday allowed the U.N. Security Council to adopt a resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlement building, defying heavy pressure from long-time ally Israel and President-elect Donald Trump for Washington to wield its veto.

A U.S. abstention paved the way for the 15-member council to approve the resolution, with 14 votes in favor, prompting applause in the council chamber. The action by President Barack Obama's administration follows growing U.S. frustration over the unrelenting construction of Jewish settlements on land Palestinians want for a future independent state.

"Israel rejects this shameful anti-Israel resolution at the U.N. and will not abide by its terms," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has encouraged the expansion of Jewish settlements in territory captured by Israel in a 1967 war with its Arab neighbors, said in a statement.

The U.S. action just weeks before Obama ends eight years as president broke with the long-standing American approach of shielding Israel, which receives more than $3 billion in annual U.S. military aid, from such action. The United States, Russia, France, Britain and China have veto power on the council.

The resolution, put forward by New Zealand, Malaysia, Venezuela and Senegal a day after Egypt withdrew it under pressure from Israel and Trump, was the first adopted by the council on Israel and the Palestinians in nearly eight years.

The U.S. abstention was seen as a parting shot by Obama, who has had an acrimonious relationship with Netanyahu and whose efforts to forge a peace agreement based on a "two-state" solution of creating a Palestinian state existing peacefully alongside Israel have proven futile.


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#772851 - 12/24/16 03:01 PM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: Sherron]
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Nothing new there. The Arabs allowed one day of peace ever since they rejected the two state solution in 47. Ever since 1947, they have done nothing but terrorize or attack Israel. The territories are not even state sponsored terrorism, the are a terrorist state, they deny their own citizens rights. They are a theocracy that practices oppression, and death to those that do not comply or even agree with them. Our President has abandoned the only functioning Democracy in the Middle east. He would love nothing more than to extinguish the light of freedom and democracy in the region.

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#772854 - 12/24/16 11:21 PM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: Sherron]
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Personally, I disagree with my candidate on this one. A rule saying Israel can't go into the West Bank, TAKE land and build a settlement is common sense.

NOT siding with terrorist, because the Israelis are not taking the land of "terrorists" to build the settlement, they are taking the land of hard working regular FARMERS.
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#772855 - 12/24/16 11:22 PM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: Redlegg]
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How would the folks who DON'T support Hamas, go about overthrowing them, when Israel limits all weapons into the area, and Hamas brings their OWN weapons in?
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#772869 - 12/26/16 01:34 PM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: Sherron]
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It is very generous of Israel to limit all weapons in the area, but give Hamas the room to get their own weapons. The only Democracy in the region, that allows any freedom is Israel. But it is only the government of Israel and not the people, just like Hamas. What is the average Israeli to do. Just like people who are anti nuclear here, it is the government not the people. There are people who did not vote Hamas, just like they did not vote for Trump here. Reminds me of the gun control idea that a tyrannical government is ridiculous, while at the same time BLM is protesting exactly that, because nothing is more tyrannical than a government that is shooting people because of their color. It is just ridiculous, and it was a direct, departing shot at Israel, while playing into the hands of an elected, terrorist government. This reign of error is ending soon.

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#772877 - 01/04/17 07:16 PM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: Redlegg]
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Well, they could let Palestine be it's OWN country, and if they attack, they would be dealt with as an attacking foreign country.

Or they can follow a ONE state solution, in which they PROTECT the people of Gaza by running Hamas OUT of the area, and rebuilding the infrastructure.

The problem is that you and folks like you are supporting them doing HALF of EACH of the things above, and that is simply ridiculous.

Of course, you COULD have actually answered my question, and explained HOW the people of Gaza are supposed to OVERTHROW Hamas, when they cannot barely SURVIVE?
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#772885 - 01/07/17 04:19 AM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: Sherron]
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"Well, they could let Palestine be it's OWN country, and if they attack, they would be dealt with as an attacking foreign country.

Or they can follow a ONE state solution, in which they PROTECT the people of Gaza by running Hamas OUT of the area, and rebuilding the infrastructure."

We did not protect the Germans by running the [email protected] out. We did protect other countries from [email protected] Germany though.

"The problem is that you and folks like you are supporting them doing HALF of EACH of the things above, and that is simply ridiculous.

Of course, you COULD have actually answered my question, and explained HOW the people of Gaza are supposed to OVERTHROW Hamas, when they cannot barely SURVIVE?"

Barely survive, good lord they have nicer malls than I have ever been to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Mall
But hey, you just keeping drinking the koolaid the terrorists are serving up.

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#772891 - 01/08/17 05:16 PM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: Sherron]
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Last week’s UN Security Council resolution sent the following message to the Palestinians: Forget about negotiating with Israel. Just pressure the international community to force Israel to comply with the resolution and surrender up all that you demand.

One thing is certain: Abbas and his Palestinian Authority cronies are not planning to return to the negotiating table with Israel. In fact, they are more belligerent, confrontational and defiant than ever. They have chosen the path of confrontation, and not direct negotiations — to force Israel to its knees.

One of Abbas’s close associates, Mohamed Shtayyeh, hinted that the resolution should be regarded as a green light not only to boycott Israel, but also to use violence against it. He said that this is the time to “bolster the popular resistance” against Israel. “Popular resistance” is code for throwing stones and firebombs, and carrying out stabbing and car-ramming attacks against Israelis.

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#772892 - 01/09/17 02:03 PM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: gr8Dad]
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Well, they could let Palestine be it's OWN country, and if they attack, they would be dealt with as an attacking foreign country.

---> The world will never support a terrorist group having their own "country".

Or they can follow a ONE state solution, in which they PROTECT the people of Gaza by running Hamas OUT of the area, and rebuilding the infrastructure.

---> You've been watching "You Don't Mess with the Zohan" too many times.

HOW the people of Gaza are supposed to OVERTHROW Hamas, when they cannot barely SURVIVE?

---> The same way the American Colonies overthrew the British Empire.
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#772894 - 01/10/17 04:37 AM Re: Obama sides with the terrorists... again [Re: Sherron]
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Guess they called that one, it did not take long either:

Israeli soldiers victim of latest truck terror attack

JERUSALEM — A truck slammed into a group of Israeli soldiers at a Jerusalem bus stop Sunday, killing four soldiers and wounding 17 other people before the Palestinian driver was fatally shot, police said about the latest round of deadly violence in more than a year.

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